Sigma 60mm F28 Ex Dn Art Black for Sony Se With Sony A6000 Pictures
petebou • New Member • Posts: 9
Advice on whether to go Sigma 60mm F2.8 DN for Sony E
Hi,
I currently take an A6300 with kit 16-50mm and Samyang 12mm F2, all relatively recent purchases.
The Samyang 12mm is amazing and the 16-50mm definitely surpassed my expectations for IQ, it'southward really rather skilful!
I need assistance overcoming my severe indecision over whether said Sigma 60mm f2.viii should be the concluding piece of the jigsaw. I don't want to spend a big bundle on lenses, the Sigma seems amazing value for money and in theory it'south a no-brainer at the price - correct? I haven't plant any affordable alternatives at longer focal lengths (that take good IQ).
I had thought of the Sony SEL18200 (18-200mm) merely discounted information technology every bit I'k a fleck of a pixelpeeper and its IQ is reputed to exist average or lower.
I also have to confess that I don't take a whole load of portraits and analysing my focal length usage from my previous kit (A700 + equally many lenses as my back could manage!) I tin see the main use of the 50ml prime number was for Ebay photos!
On the other hand, the reduced range of lenses in my new kit has already encouraged me to challenge my compositions.... As in, not having a telephoto has helped me 'see' other opportunities for photos with the focal length range I practise have.
And then, I know no ane can make the decision for me, but I'd welcome any thoughts / advice, particularly if anyone has already gone down the same thought-procedure as me.
Thanks!
Pete
grasshpr • Contributing Member • Posts: 540
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petebou wrote:
I need aid overcoming my severe indecision over whether said Sigma 60mm f2.eight should be the final piece of the jigsaw. I don't want to spend a big bundle on lenses, the Sigma seems amazing value for money and in theory information technology's a no-brainer at the price - correct? I haven't found any affordable alternatives at longer focal lengths (that take proficient IQ).
The sigma 60mm f2.8 is an amazingly sharp lens. Probably the near sharp in all of the E-mount lineup (not including the FE lenses). The only deficiencies I have with that lens is the lack of OSS, the fact that it isn't f1.8, and only supports PDAF in the center. At almost the same amount of money, the Sony 50mm f1.8 due east-mount lens (non the Atomic number 26 version) can provide all those other features, merely with slightly lower IQ. I've owned both and I notice that I've used the sel50f18 alot more than my sigma 60mm. Hope this helps.
Sony a6500 Sony a7 3 Sony DT 16-50mm F2.8 SSM Sony Eastward 55-210mm F4.5-half dozen.3 OSS Sony Eastward 16-50mm F3.v-5.half dozen PZ OSS +12 more
QuietOC • Veteran Member • Posts: v,737
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petebou wrote:
I need help overcoming my severe indecision over whether said Sigma 60mm f2.viii should be the final slice of the jigsaw. I don't desire to spend a big bundle on lenses, the Sigma seems astonishing value for money and in theory it'due south a no-brainer at the cost - right? I haven't found any affordable alternatives at longer focal lengths (that have good IQ).
I had thought of the Sony SEL18200 (18-200mm) just discounted information technology equally I'one thousand a scrap of a pixelpeeper and its IQ is reputed to be average or lower.
I also have to confess that I don't take a whole load of portraits and analysing my focal length usage from my previous kit (A700 + as many lenses every bit my dorsum could manage!) I can run into the primary use of the 50ml prime was for Ebay photos!
60mm is not a long focal length. It is a nice lens, merely it reallly isn't that useful except for portraiture.
I recommend the 55-210 OSS. If y'all go one that isn't sharp return it.
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Lens_Goat • Contributing Member • Posts: 776
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I don't own the Sigma 60 but from pictures I've seen and testimonials, it looks similar a monster. You could always put the camera on a tripod for portraiture.
Have you given thought to the Sony FE 85/i.eight?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1317562-REG/sony_sel85f18_fe_85mm_f_1_8_lens.html
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JaviB • Regular Member • Posts: 274
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grasshpr wrote:
petebou wrote:
I demand help overcoming my astringent indecision over whether said Sigma 60mm f2.8 should exist the final piece of the jigsaw. I don't want to spend a large package on lenses, the Sigma seems amazing value for money and in theory it's a no-brainer at the price - right? I haven't plant whatsoever affordable alternatives at longer focal lengths (that have good IQ).
The sigma 60mm f2.8 is an amazingly precipitous lens. Probably the most sharp in all of the E-mount lineup (not including the Fe lenses). The only deficiencies I take with that lens is the lack of OSS, the fact that it isn't f1.viii, and only supports PDAF in the center. At nearly the same amount of money, the Sony 50mm f1.viii due east-mount lens (not the FE version) can provide all those other features, but with slightly lower IQ. I've endemic both and I find that I've used the sel50f18 alot more than than my sigma 60mm. Hope this helps.
+i, I had both and sold the Sigma.
Sony a6000 Sony a6500 Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* E 24mm F1.8 ZA Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS Sony Vario-Tessar T* E 16-70mm F4 ZA OSS +4 more than
OP petebou • New Member • Posts: 9
Re: Advice on whether to go Sigma 60mm F2.8 DN for Sony E
grasshpr wrote:
...At almost the same amount of money, the Sony 50mm f1.8 e-mount lens (not the Iron version) tin provide all those other features, only with slightly lower IQ. I've owned both and I find that I've used the sel50f18 alot more than than my sigma 60mm. Hope this helps.
Thank you.. information technology does, a flake! Presumably, you lot use the 50ml Sony more considering of the focus points/OSS/extra speed?
For me, the saving (65 GBP), the extra 10mm focal length and the IQ notwithstanding make me lean Sigma.
Or put it this way, my historical photography has leaned towards wide-angle, I can't notice an affordable e-mount telephoto so the Sigma at 60mm seems a toll-constructive potential compromise even if I don't actually use it that much (it volition be nice to take every bit an option when needed).
So I think the choice will be between Sigma, any prime number or zoom > 60mm with swell IQ or simply sticking with what I've got.
Though every bit y'all tin can tell from my meandering posts, I'm not wholly decided!
OP petebou • New Member • Posts: ix
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QuietOC wrote:
60mm is not a long focal length. It is a nice lens, simply information technology reallly isn't that useful except for portraiture.
I recommend the 55-210 OSS. If you become one that isn't sharp return it.
Yes, that's my reservation on the 60mm - but very attracted to its sharpness!
Not being deliberately funny or provocative just can 1 actually get sharp versions of 55-210 OSS? I haven't establish much on pixelpeeper.com etc. to enthuse me, though I tin definitely meet that it has a very attractive focal length range. Care to mail any examples?
Thanks for taking the time to respond - appreciated!
OP petebou • New Member • Posts: 9
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Lens_Goat wrote:
I don't ain the Sigma threescore but from pictures I've seen and testimonials, it looks like a monster. You could e'er put the camera on a tripod for portraiture.
Take y'all given idea to the Sony Atomic number 26 85/1.8?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/production/1317562-REG/sony_sel85f18_fe_85mm_f_1_8_lens.html
Thanks - that's a adept suggestion. A off-white chip over my budget, though.
QuietOC • Veteran Member • Posts: 5,737
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petebou wrote:
QuietOC wrote:
60mm is not a long focal length. Information technology is a nice lens, but it reallly isn't that useful except for portraiture.
I recommend the 55-210 OSS. If you become i that isn't sharp render it.
Yep, that'due south my reservation on the 60mm - only very attracted to its sharpness!
Not being deliberately funny or provocative but tin one actually get sharp versions of 55-210 OSS? I oasis't found much on pixelpeeper.com etc. to enthuse me, though I tin can definitely see that it has a very bonny focal length range. Care to post any examples?
I test lenses when I buy them and my 55-210mm OSS is quite sharp. It is not a lens I plan to employ much. I might practise a direct comparing with the Sigma threescore. The Sigma cropped to 210mm is going to exist horrible though.
The Sigma 60mm F2.viii Fine art is a keen option for copying large flat objects.
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Htbaa • Senior Fellow member • Posts: 1,010
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petebou wrote:
QuietOC wrote:
60mm is non a long focal length. It is a nice lens, but it reallly isn't that useful except for portraiture.
I recommend the 55-210 OSS. If you lot get one that isn't sharp return information technology.
Yes, that's my reservation on the 60mm - but very attracted to its sharpness!
Not being deliberately funny or provocative but can i actually get abrupt versions of 55-210 OSS? I haven't constitute much on pixelpeeper.com etc. to enthuse me, though I tin definitely see that information technology has a very attractive focal length range. Care to post any examples?
Thank you for taking the time to respond - appreciated!
Yes! https://flic.kr/p/MFGZhp
Sony a6400 Sony E 50mm F1.eight OSS Sony E PZ 18-105mm F4 G OSS Sigma 150-600mm F5-6.3 | C Sigma 30mm F1.iv (E/EF-M mounts) +18 more than
rjjr • Forum Pro • Posts: fourteen,769
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petebou wrote:
grasshpr wrote:
...At almost the same amount of money, the Sony 50mm f1.eight due east-mount lens (not the Iron version) can provide all those other features, but with slightly lower IQ. I've owned both and I find that I've used the sel50f18 alot more my sigma 60mm. Promise this helps.
Thanks.. it does, a bit! Presumably, you employ the 50ml Sony more because of the focus points/OSS/extra speed?
For me, the saving (65 GBP), the extra 10mm focal length and the IQ even so make me lean Sigma.
Or put it this way, my historical photography has leaned towards wide-angle, I can't find an affordable e-mount telephoto and then the Sigma at 60mm seems a cost-effective potential compromise even if I don't actually employ it that much (it will be nice to have as an pick when needed).
So I think the choice will be between Sigma, any prime or zoom > 60mm with great IQ or just sticking with what I've got.
Though as you can tell from my meandering posts, I'one thousand non wholly decided!
I have both the Sigma 60/two.8 and Sony East l/1.8. I reserve the Sony for portraits and low light and use the Sigma much, much more. In fact information technology'due south very rare that I have to use the Sony.
rjjr • Forum Pro • Posts: 14,769
Re: Advice on whether to go Sigma 60mm F2.8 DN for Sony E
QuietOC wrote:
petebou wrote:
I need aid overcoming my severe indecision over whether said Sigma 60mm f2.eight should be the final slice of the jigsaw. I don't want to spend a big bundle on lenses, the Sigma seems amazing value for money and in theory it'due south a no-brainer at the price - right? I haven't plant any affordable alternatives at longer focal lengths (that take expert IQ).
I had idea of the Sony SEL18200 (xviii-200mm) but discounted it as I'm a fleck of a pixelpeeper and its IQ is reputed to exist average or lower.
I also take to confess that I don't accept a whole load of portraits and analysing my focal length usage from my previous kit (A700 + every bit many lenses as my back could manage!) I tin see the principal use of the 50ml prime was for Ebay photos!
60mm is not a long focal length. It is a nice lens, but it reallly isn't that useful except for portraiture.
I disagree, I apply information technology for pretty much everything except portraiture where I apply my Sigma l.
I recommend the 55-210 OSS. If yous get one that isn't sharp return it.
Based on my experience with it I tin't recommend that lens, but apparently he got lucky with his xvi-fifty and so maybe his luck will hold.
snapa • Veteran Member • Posts: 5,366
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petebou wrote:
QuietOC wrote:
60mm is not a long focal length. Information technology is a nice lens, but it reallly isn't that useful except for portraiture.
I recommend the 55-210 OSS. If y'all get one that isn't sharp return it.
Yes, that'due south my reservation on the 60mm - but very attracted to its sharpness!
Not existence deliberately funny or provocative but can one really get precipitous versions of 55-210 OSS? I oasis't found much on pixelpeeper.com etc. to enthuse me, though I tin definitely see that it has a very bonny focal length range. Intendance to post any examples?
Since I had a few examples, figured I'd show you the 55-210 can provide abrupt images.
Simply trying to exist helpful
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grasshpr • Contributing Member • Posts: 540
Re: Advice on whether to get Sigma 60mm F2.viii DN for Sony Eastward
petebou wrote:
grasshpr wrote:
...At almost the aforementioned amount of coin, the Sony 50mm f1.8 e-mountain lens (not the Fe version) can provide all those other features, only with slightly lower IQ. I've owned both and I find that I've used the sel50f18 alot more than than my sigma 60mm. Hope this helps.
Thanks.. it does, a bit! Presumably, you apply the 50ml Sony more than because of the focus points/OSS/extra speed?
For me, the Sony is more versatile compared with the sigma lens. If IQ is the only requirement, and then the sigma should be your best bet.
Or put it this fashion, my historical photography has leaned towards broad-bending, I can't notice an affordable e-mount telephoto and then the Sigma at 60mm seems a cost-effective potential compromise even if I don't actually use it that much (it will be nice to accept as an selection when needed).
Sounds like your looking for telephoto drinking glass. This is a region that eastward-mount lenses seem to be lacking (in terms of APS-C lenses). The only prime lenses for due east-mountain in a higher place 60 seem to exist Iron lenses (any of the iii 85mm lenses, 90mm macro, 100mm STF), which if your looking for excellent IQ and AF speed would be worth the money (if your upkeep is in the 1k range). I personally own the sel85f18 and its a wonderfully precipitous lens. Ultimately, your budget will decide what you lot can afford as long as your willing to cross over to the FE upkeep boundary, then Sony has a lot to offer.
Sony a6500 Sony a7 3 Sony DT 16-50mm F2.8 SSM Sony E 55-210mm F4.5-vi.3 OSS Sony E 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 PZ OSS +12 more
gabazz • Regular Member • Posts: 325
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I have not used the Sigma 60mm merely if it is similar to the 19mm and 30mm, then it is a bit sharper than Sony lenses. But especially for telephoto I would like to have the OSS. So I'd have to agree with most people posting hither that you should consider both the SEL50F18 and SEL55210.
The 50mm gives you lot nice out of focus corking for closeups and portraits. Too, significantly better than the Sigma in low light. Partly due to the aperture and partly due to the OSS. If yous are willing to cede a flake of IQ and low light functioning, I would recommend the 55-210. Lately, it is the lens I am using the nearly. Information technology performs very well in practiced light.
I as well adopt the autofocus and colour on the Sony lenses compared the Sigma.
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rjjr • Forum Pro • Posts: 14,769
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gabazz wrote:
I have not used the Sigma 60mm simply if it is similar to the 19mm and 30mm, and then it is a scrap sharper than Sony lenses. Just especially for telephoto I would similar to have the OSS.
The OP mentioned they have an A6300 so I didn't mention this but will now since you lot mentioned OSS. I originally used my Sigma threescore/ii.eight DN A on my A6000, and then my A6300, and now I use it on my A6500 with IBIS. The IBIS makes it much easier to apply the Sigma in lower calorie-free and mostly makes information technology a much more versatile lens. It'due south actually quite outstanding IQ and the fact that information technology only costs about $200 is a bonus.
So I'd accept to concord with near people posting here that you should consider both the SEL50F18 and SEL55210.
The 50mm gives yous nice out of focus dandy for closeups and portraits. Also, significantly better than the Sigma in low light. Partly due to the aperture and partly due to the OSS.
Again, the Sigma 60 really comes into it'southward own on the A6500 with IBIS. Only since the OP uses the A6300, OSS might be a good idea.
maltmoose • Senior Member • Posts: ii,587
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rjjr wrote:
gabazz wrote:
I have not used the Sigma 60mm but if it is like to the 19mm and 30mm, then it is a flake sharper than Sony lenses. But especially for telephoto I would similar to take the OSS.
The OP mentioned they have an A6300 so I didn't mention this but will at present since y'all mentioned OSS. I originally used my Sigma threescore/two.eight DN A on my A6000, so my A6300, and at present I use it on my A6500 with IBIS. The IBIS makes information technology much easier to employ the Sigma in lower calorie-free and generally makes it a much more versatile lens. It's actually quite outstanding IQ and the fact that it only costs well-nigh $200 is a bonus.
So I'd have to agree with most people posting here that you should consider both the SEL50F18 and SEL55210.
The 50mm gives yous dainty out of focus great for closeups and portraits. As well, significantly improve than the Sigma in low light. Partly due to the aperture and partly due to the OSS.
Once more, the Sigma threescore really comes into it's own on the A6500 with IBIS. Just since the OP uses the A6300, OSS might be a adept thought.
yes thats a valid point.
I utilize the 60 on an a6300, i tend to apply information technology at college shutter speeds than i would ordinarily. non a bad affair for any curt telephoto though.
i dont typically use information technology for low low-cal though so not an issue.
deciding factor for me was i got mine for £fourscore second manus.. this time terminal year i call up information technology was going for £105 brand new.
think it boils downwardly to AF and low light (oss and 1.8) the sony
possibly everything else the sigma
rjjr • Forum Pro • Posts: 14,769
Re: Advice on whether to get Sigma 60mm F2.8 DN for Sony E
maltmoose wrote:
rjjr wrote:
gabazz wrote:
I accept not used the Sigma 60mm but if it is similar to the 19mm and 30mm, and so it is a chip sharper than Sony lenses. But especially for telephoto I would like to take the OSS.
The OP mentioned they have an A6300 then I didn't mention this but will now since you mentioned OSS. I originally used my Sigma lx/2.eight DN A on my A6000, then my A6300, and now I apply it on my A6500 with IBIS. The IBIS makes it much easier to utilise the Sigma in lower light and generally makes information technology a much more versatile lens. It'south actually quite outstanding IQ and the fact that it simply costs about $200 is a bonus.
And so I'd have to agree with near people posting here that you lot should consider both the SEL50F18 and SEL55210.
The 50mm gives you prissy out of focus great for closeups and portraits. As well, significantly ameliorate than the Sigma in low light. Partly due to the aperture and partly due to the OSS.
Again, the Sigma sixty really comes into it's own on the A6500 with IBIS. But since the OP uses the A6300, OSS might exist a proficient idea.
yep thats a valid signal.
I use the 60 on an a6300, i tend to utilise it at higher shutter speeds than i would usually. not a bad thing for any short telephoto though.
Exactly, the best I could trust myself to consistently handhold my A6000 and A6300 with the Sigma threescore was almost ane/125s and faster was meliorate. With the A6500 and IBIS I've been able to utilise 1/30s with conviction. Mayhap I could fifty-fifty use slower speeds, I'll have to try someday.
i dont typically utilize it for depression light though so not an result.
deciding cistron for me was i got mine for £lxxx second hand.. this time terminal yr i call up information technology was going for £105 brand new.
think information technology boils down to AF and depression calorie-free (oss and 1.8) the sony
possibly everything else the sigma
(unknown member) • Regular Member • Posts: 257
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You need xviii-105 f4. A very good lens.
OP petebou • New Fellow member • Posts: 9
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Htbaa wrote:
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Yes! https://flic.kr/p/MFGZhp
Cheers! You take some prissy images there! I concur, the ones with the 55-210 are pretty comparable to the ones with the other lenses. I'k on the way to persuaded!
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